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	<title>Comments on: Joel Osteen Bashing</title>
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		<title>By: BenCotten</title>
		<link>http://www.bencotten.net/media/video/joel-osteen-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-2409</link>
		<dc:creator>BenCotten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, let me say that I can see that Christians have hurt you and for that I am truly sorry.  I don&#039;t suppose to know you from one comment on a blog, but please don&#039;t let your bad experience keep you from looking for true community a Christ-centered fellowship somewhere in the Church.  It does exist!

Second, going to church doesn&#039;t save you.  That&#039;s a silly idea that holds no grounds in the Bible.  Only faith in Jesus Christ as the one and only Messiah can save you.  This is not to say that being a functioning part of a good church isn&#039;t important.  In fact, I&#039;d say it&#039;s vital.  However, it doesn&#039;t save you.

If you were told that if you didn&#039;t go to church you would go to hell then you were told wrong.

As for your &quot;American God&quot; question, I&#039;m not totally clear on what you mean.  I think the best answer I can give is to say that (obviously) Jesus is not American.  He&#039;s God.  So, it&#039;s Jesus that saves you, redeems you, cleans your heart, and leads you forward.  He is the difference between heaven and hell, not the country of your birth.

So, in light of that, your friends in India do not need to be culturalized into western, American, culture in order to meet Jesus and be saved by Him.

Does that help at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, let me say that I can see that Christians have hurt you and for that I am truly sorry.  I don&#8217;t suppose to know you from one comment on a blog, but please don&#8217;t let your bad experience keep you from looking for true community a Christ-centered fellowship somewhere in the Church.  It does exist!</p>
<p>Second, going to church doesn&#8217;t save you.  That&#8217;s a silly idea that holds no grounds in the Bible.  Only faith in Jesus Christ as the one and only Messiah can save you.  This is not to say that being a functioning part of a good church isn&#8217;t important.  In fact, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s vital.  However, it doesn&#8217;t save you.</p>
<p>If you were told that if you didn&#8217;t go to church you would go to hell then you were told wrong.</p>
<p>As for your &#8220;American God&#8221; question, I&#8217;m not totally clear on what you mean.  I think the best answer I can give is to say that (obviously) Jesus is not American.  He&#8217;s God.  So, it&#8217;s Jesus that saves you, redeems you, cleans your heart, and leads you forward.  He is the difference between heaven and hell, not the country of your birth.</p>
<p>So, in light of that, your friends in India do not need to be culturalized into western, American, culture in order to meet Jesus and be saved by Him.</p>
<p>Does that help at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Vela_girl</title>
		<link>http://www.bencotten.net/media/video/joel-osteen-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-2408</link>
		<dc:creator>Vela_girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 05:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fell away from the whole thing. I accepted the Lord as my personal savior. Then I was told since I didn&#039;t attend church I was going to burn in hell. I wasn&#039;t really saved if I didn&#039;t go to church. Well all the threats didn&#039;t save me/couldn&#039;t save me. Maybe Joel can. But only if he doesn&#039;t say my friends in India are going to hell for not believing in our American God.  Is he saying that? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fell away from the whole thing. I accepted the Lord as my personal savior. Then I was told since I didn&#8217;t attend church I was going to burn in hell. I wasn&#8217;t really saved if I didn&#8217;t go to church. Well all the threats didn&#8217;t save me/couldn&#8217;t save me. Maybe Joel can. But only if he doesn&#8217;t say my friends in India are going to hell for not believing in our American God.  Is he saying that?</p>
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		<title>By: Man of God</title>
		<link>http://www.bencotten.net/media/video/joel-osteen-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-2172</link>
		<dc:creator>Man of God</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second that! </description>
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		<title>By: Jossher7000</title>
		<link>http://www.bencotten.net/media/video/joel-osteen-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-1676</link>
		<dc:creator>Jossher7000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But alas, from researching Joel Osteen online, I stumbled upon a very powerful, Bible-based, Christ-centered, heart piercing preacher in Paul Washer: http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/resources/sermons/paul_washer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But alas, from researching Joel Osteen online, I stumbled upon a very powerful, Bible-based, Christ-centered, heart piercing preacher in Paul Washer: <a href="http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/resources/sermons/paul_washer" rel="nofollow">http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/resources/sermons/paul_washer</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jossher7000</title>
		<link>http://www.bencotten.net/media/video/joel-osteen-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-1675</link>
		<dc:creator>Jossher7000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice that Joel Osteen&#039;s authority is &quot;the scripture.&quot; Law school taught me that if you cite authority always cite the specific authority. Pastors who study their Bible could cite specific scripture verses so that the listener can always check it with the Bible. I have a hard time distinguishing Joel Osteen from Norman Vincent Peale or Tony Robbins. Vauge general principles, even if seemingly positive, is suspect. And people who get deceived by such &quot;prosperity gospel&quot; are the people who do not check their Bibles to discern whether the speaker is coming from God or coming from somewhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice that Joel Osteen&#8217;s authority is &#8220;the scripture.&#8221; Law school taught me that if you cite authority always cite the specific authority. Pastors who study their Bible could cite specific scripture verses so that the listener can always check it with the Bible. I have a hard time distinguishing Joel Osteen from Norman Vincent Peale or Tony Robbins. Vauge general principles, even if seemingly positive, is suspect. And people who get deceived by such &#8220;prosperity gospel&#8221; are the people who do not check their Bibles to discern whether the speaker is coming from God or coming from somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.bencotten.net/media/video/joel-osteen-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-1359</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This week I am teaching and leading a conversation on Acts 13.  Paul here confronted the false teachers of false Gospels and brought people back to the person of Jesus...

I would not paint MD as the &quot;Paul&quot; in this scenario, but not all gospels the THE Gospel of Jesus Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week I am teaching and leading a conversation on Acts 13.  Paul here confronted the false teachers of false Gospels and brought people back to the person of Jesus&#8230;</p>
<p>I would not paint MD as the &#8220;Paul&#8221; in this scenario, but not all gospels the THE Gospel of Jesus Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: John Piper: Prosperity Gospel &#124; Live.Awake</title>
		<link>http://www.bencotten.net/media/video/joel-osteen-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-1204</link>
		<dc:creator>John Piper: Prosperity Gospel &#124; Live.Awake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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